Woodbridge mayor welcomes Gov. Chris Christie to forum in Woodbridge
WOODBRIDGE, NJ -- Gov. Chris Christie kicked off his latest town hall meeting with a sermon on the need for pension and health benefits reform, saying the way the current system is set up is killing the future for New Jerseyans.
Speaking before a packed crowd at the Woodbridge Community Center, Christie began his ninth town hall of 2011 by saying the Legislature has 107 days left to deal with the large issues facing New Jersey, specifically pension and health benefits reform.
Christie was introduced by Woodbridge Mayor John McCormac, a Democrat and former state treasurer who served on the governor’s transition team, and a group of about two dozen students from St. James School in Woodbridge — there to support passage of the Opportunity Scholarship Act, a proposed school voucher program — were part of the background.
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Jeff Pickens 8:21 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
Twenty-four students excused from school, to serve as props for public subsidizing of parochial schools? Why weren’t these kids in school? Are they “drug mules” for the voucher lobby?
Remember the right-wing outrage over President Obama’s televised back-to-school address to students? Where’s the outrage here?
donaldnelsen 8:56 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
So let me get this straight, the “props” who are in school longer and have higher test scores than the public school children were present to learn about civics and government, as well as show support for a voucher program which will alleviate the unnecessary tax crunch for the parents who pay both tuition and school taxes; and you have the audacity to call them “drug mules”?
There is a difference between socialist and marxist indoctrination by a putative President who is inelligle to serve, and students present to both learn about the process and show support for a program which will help them better themselves.
My right wing outrage is now at you Mr. Pickens. I take it either you are employed as a teacher in the public schools, are a member of the NJEA, and/or are a social progressive who needs the nanny state to provide for you.
In any case, you better watch your mouth before you call innocent school chlldren “drug mules”. Shame on you, you are setting a disgusting example to them, and to the community.
Jeff Pickens 9:05 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
Nelsen:
I did not call them “drug mules” I asked the question, because that is exactly what Governor Christie called public school children last year, accusing them of being used by the NJEA as “drug mules”.
No, I am not a teacher, and I have no further interest in engaging an ignorant “birther” like you.
donaldnelsen 9:26 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
So, Pickens, what part of the Constitution of the United States don’t you believe in? If you have a problem with it, then what don’t you stand up and make an intelligent argument against it?
Based on your left wing blog, it is obvious where you stand. Just what have you done to serve your community, state, and country besides post leftist trash agains our governments?
If you have no further interest in engaging an ignorant “birther”, why are you posting on a Woodbridge community web site when you don’t live here nor are registered to vote here?
I have all intentions of pursuing left wing liberal socialist progressives like yourself who want handouts from my hard earned taxes.
Johnathon 9:55 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
Really Pickens? These kids (including me) went to learn about NJ’s Government, Is there a problem with that Mr.Pickens? You run your mouth on here about how these kids should be in school where we probably know more then you do about this government stop being Immature and grow up there is no reason for you to call us “drug mules.” You are a disgrace to this community. Grow up
Martha 10:14 pm on March 15, 2011 Permalink
You should be ashamed of yourself, Jeff, for calling our kids “drug mules”. I will have to guess you have no children and have no understanding how important quality education is. The children who attended this meeting are old enough to understand what is going on and hope that this voucher will help their parents afford the education they deserve. I personally ,back the governor, 100% in this matter because he understands that the quality of public school education has dramatically dropped in this state and we need to take action. Before you make any additional, stupid remarks, educate yourself. We should have the right to be able to register our kids in any school, we feel comfortable with and be able to afford it.
David Pinkowitz 1:01 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Perhaps you all don’t remember last year’s election, but Mr. Pickens appears to be quoting Governor Christie himself. Last April, in response to to a student assignment in Monroe, Christie accused union members of “using the students like drug mules.” http://bit.ly/g8qA0S Although the purpose of the assignment was disputed, Governor Christie’s accusations were quite clear. He believed the students were being used for political purposes.
In this case, I was not there and I cannot say why any individual student was in attendance. In another article on this meeting, however, it stated that the students were all wearing white T-shirts supporting the Opportunity Scholarship Act. http://bit.ly/hBo00L I’m not sure what grades were represented by these students, but St. James covers pre-K through grade 8. Do you believe this was a political statement solely on the part of the students, who then had T-shirts made, or perhaps might they have had some encouragement for their political statement from adults? That isn’t much more than Christie accused the unions of doing last year.
I understand the outrage over the “drug mule” statement regarding children in our community and I hope your outrage applied last year to the Governor as well.
On another point, Mr. Nelsen stated that these children have higher test scores than public school children. To my knowledge, these students do not even take the same standardized tests as the public school children, but if you have this information, I would like to see the results for myself. Where can you find it?
Amy 1:10 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink
You people obviously can’t understand the reference Mr Pickens made as you are too busy listening to Glenn Beck to read the daily news. It was Christie who referred to kids as drug mules and Mr Pickens was alluding to that. I can understand how Christie would appeal to literal minded simpletons like you but give us a break with that bull about your tax dollars. Vouchers use your tax dollars to subsidize schools while the tax breaks go to the corporations that run them, not you.
Jeff Pickens 5:30 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Nelsen:
I was going to let this go, but since you made false statements about me, I need to correct you:
Where, in my comments, did I say I did not believe in the Constitution? Nowhere.
Where, in my statements, did I say I was looking for a handout? Nowhere.
Here is the flaw in your argument:
You sing the praises of a government program that would give money to parochial schools. Then at the same time you decry the “nanny state” that would give this money out. People like you are against government handouts, unless they benefit you. You cannot have it both ways.
And, by what authority do I need to be registered to vote in Woodbridge in order to comment on this article? As long as I abide by InJersey’s terms of service I can post anywhere I wish. As a taxpayer in this state I am footing the bill for these sham political rallies disguised as “town hall” meetings, stacked with adoring crowds and softball-lobbing questioners. The fact that the St James school students were there to buttress the Governor’s agenda proves my point.
Now, I am done with you. Go back to your Glen Beck Instruction Manual, pull out all the Fox “News” talking points, and hurl them all at me. Let me have it. Maybe that will make you feel better,
And don’t be so angry; it’s bad for your health.
Jeff Pickens 5:35 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Martha:
I’ll repeat, i did NOT call the students “drug mules” I asked the question, because that is exactly what Governor Christie called public school children last year, accusing them of being used by the NJEA as “drug mules”.
The quality of public school education has not dramatically dropped in this state, schools in NJ, with some exceptions, are among the best in the nation.
Do not make any assumptions about my family. Not that it’s any of your business, but I have four sons, all grown, all successful, all products of NJ’s fine public education system, that this Governor is trying to dismantle.
Jack Blake 11:01 am on March 16, 2011 Permalink
So there in the front row was Mayor Big Mac and his bandito’s. Everything Christie was saying was going in one ear and out the other. Big Mac our almighty dictator and his bandito’s are so far in bed with WBOE it’s sickening. Anything the WBOE want’s it gets. We shot down the overly inflated school budget last year only to have the dictator and his bandito’s tell us they trimmed it a little but our taxes are going up another $128 or more. Yeah they trimmed it, what a crock! So afraid they won’t get the votes to keep them in office they will override this years budget the same exact way, guaranteed. This power hungry dictator must go and be voted out this November. I read last year when someone complained about them not putting up the big tent at the Monday Concert series as they have done so for many years. His answer was they don’t have the couple of thousand dollars, another crock. But Mr. Dictator you found the money to buy a SNOW MELTER? Are you serious, this isn’t NYC where something like that is needed. Plus he wants to buy the Colonia Country Club and now wants to spend $500,000 on another skate board park and $400, 000+ on a Miniature golf center and he lies through his teeth saying it won’t cost the tax payers a dime, you can’t be serious Mr. Big Mac! He must really believe that the good folks of this town were born and raised in a pumpkin patch, I really believe that. They keep spending and approving and raising taxes like everyone can afford it and it has to stop now. Many people in this town are struggling to pay their taxes and hang on to their homes and many are still without jobs. But does he care, hell no, him and his bandito’s are living in a fantasy world and have no concept of what’s happening in the real world. I ask the good folks of this town to vote out this power hungry dictator and do it this November or you will be in for another 4 years of taxes rising every year and spending out of control.
Martha 1:56 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Jeff;
I will end this discussion with you because its a waste of my time. Just one last thought, if it takes 1/2 the money to educate our children in catholic/private school, wouldn’t it make sense for the vouchers. Why does it take twice as much money to educate our children in the public school?
Amy;
Stay out of this conversation, you have no idea what you are talking about. The only “simpleton” here is you.
donaldnelsen 2:46 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
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donaldnelsen 2:55 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Mr. Pinkowitz,
Being you are running for board of education, you should already be aware that there is standardized testing throughout all schools in this state, public and private. Even for those home schooled, they still have to take the standardized tests under state law. I really don’t know if the parochial/private schools results are made public or not.
Also, many parochial schools are accredited, just like our police department. There are various entities which can accredit a school, I guess it is based upon which entity you select. And, part of the process is the school has to participate in standardized testing from the state it is located in. I cannot speak for others, but Saint James Elementary School in Woodbridge is accredited.
Lastly, NJ Monthly magazine rates all the school districts state wide every year or two. Just a few months ago that issue was published. Woodbridge public schools didn’t even make the top 10 for Middlesex County – except in size of budget and teacher’s salaries. I am all for keeping competent teachers and merit pay, but why spend so much on teachers who can’t even get the average test scores to make the top 10 – IN THE COUNTY of a little more than two dozen districts???
Amy 5:03 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Sorry Martha, you may want me to stay out of the conversation but last I looked it’s still a free country, or didn’t you read that part of the constitution?
The last bastion of Christie supporters are parents of parochial school children who want the public to subsidize their children’s religious education. No harm in trying, but please spare us “we the taxypayer” arguments.
It’s telling the comment made by Mr. Nelson to Mr. Pickens about “gruesome accidents”. No surprise considering
the source and a perfect example of the mindset of many of those who support Chris Christie.
martha 7:46 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Amy,
Like I said before, I will not have this discussion with you but just for your information, I am a taxpayer.
David Pinkowitz 8:17 pm on March 16, 2011 Permalink
Mr. Nelsen,
I am aware that New Jersey’s public schools and charter schools take the state assessments. I did further research since your post and to the best of my knowledge, homeschooled students have no assessment requirements http://bit.ly/hwTxjP and private/parochial school students, while typically taking some standardized assessment, do not take the same assessments as the public schools, making direct comparisons between the two types of schools difficult.
Like you, I am concerned about the overall education in Woodbridge. Woodbridge spends a lot of effort doing well in the state tests related to proficiency, but some of the additional measures used in rankings such as SATs and APs used by NJ Monthly http://bit.ly/eOm0eR hurt Woodbridge’s results.
My goal if elected would be to reduce waste in our expenditures, but also to set higher goals for education.